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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 21:42

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True Identity: Moses
Class: Caster
Alignment: Lawful Good
Territory: Church
[Description] Moses (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה‎, Modern Moshe Tiberian Mōšé; Greek: Mωϋσῆς Mōüsēs in both the Septuagint and the New Testament; Arabic: موسىٰ, Mūsa) was, according to the Hebrew Bible, a religious leader, lawgiver, and prophet, to whom the authorship of the Torah is traditionally attributed. Also called Moshe Rabbenu in Hebrew (Hebrew: מֹשֶׁה רַבֵּנוּ‎, Lit. "Moses our Teacher/Rabbi"), is the most important prophet in Judaism,[1][2] and is also considered an important prophet by Christianity,[1] Islam,[3] the Bahá'í Faith,[4] Rastafari,[1] and many other faiths.
According to the Book of Exodus, Moses was born in a time when his people, the Children of Israel, were increasing in number and the Egyptian Pharaoh was worried that they might help Egypt's enemies. Moses' Hebrew mother, Jochebed, hid him when the Pharaoh ordered all newborn Hebrew boys to be killed. He ended up being adopted into the Egyptian royal family. After killing an Egyptian slave-master, Moses fled across the Red Sea to Midian where he tended the flocks of Jethro, a priest of Midian on the slopes of Mt. Horeb. After the Ten Plagues were unleashed on Egypt, Moses led the Exodus of the Hebrew people out of Egypt and across the Red Sea, after which they based themselves at Mount Sinai and compassed the borders of Edom. It was at this time that Moses received the Ten Commandments. Despite living to the age of 120 given in the Bible, Moses died before reaching the Land of Israel.


Stats

Strength: E (0)
Endurance: E (0)
Agility: C (5)
Mana: B (7)
Luck: E (0)


Abilities

Class Abilities

Name: Territory Creation
Rank: A (10)
[Description] Creation of a "Temple", which is superior to a "Workshop", becomes possible.

Personal Abilities

Name: Aegis of Faith
Rank: A (5)
[Description] A pseudo-supernatural protection that springs from religious faith, protecting the body and mind from harm. However, it is not true protection derived from a divinity.

Name: Disengage
Rank: E (1)
[Description] The ability to break away from combat.


Noble Phantasms

Name: Advanced Case of Leprosy
Rank: C (5)
Type: Support (1)
[Description] Causes the enemy to lose their sense of "touch" as well as reducing any sort of clairvoyance, eye of the mind (both true and fake), or instinct by the rank of the noble phantsm.

Name: Staff of the Serpent
Rank: D+ (5)
Type: Anti-Army (2)
[Description] Moses Carries with him as staff that can turn into a huge serpent that acts as his familiar. The serpent comes from the forest of Einnashe. The staff can also satisfy the basic human needs of survival (water, food, etc) but that's irrelevant...

Name: The Israelites
Rank: EX (12)
Type: Anti-Army (2)
[Description] Moses can possess the dead corpses in the church with the souls of his disciples who are so loyal to him that they killed their own family when moses told them that they were infidels.

These men all have the stats of:

Strength: C
Endurance: C
Agility: C
Mana: E
Luck: D

As well as the ability of:

Name: Bravery
Rank: D
[Description] Melee damaged is increased, and mental interferences like pressure, panic, and confusion are Subdued.

Among these men includes Joshua who has the Ability of:

Name: Expert of Many Specializations
Rank: C
[Description] A total of 8 different skills ranging from tactics, academia, espionage, assassination, swindling, rhetoric and others can be used with proficiency of Rank B or above.

Joshua is always created. The number of Israelites created on different mana resources are as follows:

- None: 75
- Sufficient: 100
- Good or Extremely high: 125
- On own Territory: 175

Versus

Lancer
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True Identity:Saint George
Class:Lancer
Alignment:Lawful Good

Stats
Strength:A(9)
Endurance:A(9)
Mana:C(5)
Agility:C(5)
Luck:E(0)

Abilities
Riding:A(5)
Magic Resistance:E(1)

Noble Phantasms
Ascalon:Anti-Unit EX(13)
Legendary cross-tipped lance with which Saint George slew the dragon. Some legends refer to it as a sword, allowing Saint George to be either a Lancer or a Saber. In addition to being very potent against human foes, it can guarantees victory against demonaic beasts, holy beasts, and dragons, and does considerable damage without guaranteeing victory against other phantasmic beasts and divine beasts.

Cappadocia:Anti-Unit C+(8 )
The horse Saint George rode when he slew the dragon. It can travel at speeds of 150 km/h and can attack with its hooves with the strength of a C-rank Noble Phantasm. Saint George has a mental link with Cappadocia, allowing him to use it as an extension of himself rather than a horse.

Saint George (ca. 275/281 – 23 April 303) was, according to tradition, a Roman soldier and priest in the Guard of Diocletian, who is venerated as a Christian martyr. In hagiography Saint George is one of the most venerated saints in the Catholic (Western and Eastern Rites), Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, and the Oriental Orthodox churches. He is immortalized in the tale of Saint George and the Dragon and is one of the Fourteen Holy Helpers. His memorial is celebrated on 23 April, and he is regarded as one of the most prominent military saints.

Ground: Dry
Obstacles: None
Size: Vast
Mana: Extremely High
Caster's Territory: Yes



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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 21:48

Battle begins, Cappadocia charges and knocks down with hooves, Lancer uses Ascalon, battle end.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 21:52

ok lets see, this assumed A) that moses was doing nothing, B) that someone can pull off an attack after a hard stop on a person.

I would have gone with lancer on any other zone but the crazy mana, and casters territory, schools you. Just too much power here.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 21:55

Bear in mind that Caster does NOT have High Speed Divine Level Thaumaturgy, and to do any spells strong enough to get past my Magic Resistance he has to chant. By which time he is dead.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 21:57

your E ranked Magical Resistance? that will be Child's play to penetrate.

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 21:58

....
But still, he has to chant, and unless he can chant faster than I can run up to him, 150 km/h, he's screwed.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:00

Vast Feild, you need to get past both his army and his temple to reach him, and he has his Snake familiar IF you manage to get that far, assuming sheer weight of numbers doesn't simply wipe you out.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-07, 22:01

uh huh, so the horse can travel 150 km/h, so can most cars, and what happens to cars during a zombie apocalypse? clogged up, abandoned, or zombies inside because the drivers were stupid enough to think they could run over that giant horde. That's exactly what happens here. a crowd of 175 people pop up, that horse will go through at most half of them before it loses speed, then the rest pile on top of it and rape it. Acting as a meat shield is no problem with Bravery for everyone. Same thing with that spear, it's only anti-unit while he's facing an army here.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:02

So, are you saying that his army and snake can travel at 150 km/h?
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:03

what's to stop him from going AROUND teh army and dodging all of caster's spells anyway?
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-07, 22:09

@Capitalist Pig wrote:....
But still, he has to chant, and unless he can chant faster than I can run up to him, 150 km/h, he's screwed.
noble phantasms don't need long chants, they aren't spells.
@Capitalist Pig wrote:what's to stop him from going AROUND teh army and dodging all of caster's spells anyway?
well, what is around his army and spells for george to go to? Nothing, moses is right in the middle of his army inside his temple. Did you seriously think he'd put everything in a nice straight line for you?
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:10

and if his army is AROUND him? And we didn't even take his spells into account, once the zombies/israelites pile on to your guy, your guy is stuck and screwed. In fact, like none of the servants could take this servant on in these ridiculously favorable terms, high mana, caster territory, epic rape.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-07, 22:12

Nah, a good Anti-Army NP will clear out the horde, as well as SN caster's beam spam. Archer-class servants will love the cannon fodder. Too bad George has none of these.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:12

@ Amos probably true, however all circumstances were completely randomized by a roll of dice

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:12

What's to stop me from running around really fast killing all of his men?
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:16

your anti- unit NPs for one, also, your spear is EX ranked even with Massive ambient Mana resources, you might get off ten shots with it, that's maybe 20/175 Israelites, assuming that you can stab through one.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-07, 22:16

@Capitalist Pig wrote:What's to stop me from running around really fast killing all of his men?

you don't flinch when your old theory's proven to be 100% BS, you keep face and just post another BS theory, I like your approach but the votes are against you. His men are in a dense formation, going straight in would result in being swarmed, the only way you could 'run around really fast and kill all of them' is by circling around the army repeatedly, killing a bunch of people on the fringe and then moving on so they can't get you. 175 people, I think it'd take quite a long time to cut them all down that way. And I don't think moses will just sit there watching you do it. You're completely vulnerable and he knows exactly where you will go next.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:18

I don't have to skewer them, lances are used primarily as slashing weapons. If they surround me, spin around and slash, klling them all. and because of the ambient mana, my horse would prolly be up to a b or an a.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:19

and I don't have to activate Ascalon for each one, I can just use it as a normal lance.
Does f/sn lancer use gae bolg agasint every enemy?
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:20

his lance has a cross for a point, it might be able to impale one of them straight through, however, then he needs to clean off two bodies, and get them past his cross hilt, that would be interesting to watch.
Lances were uesd to Stab people from horseback, they were not slashing weapons, quit pulling powerofpoo out of your ass

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-07, 22:21

Good, you're being very predictable, next time you get surrounded and have to spinzaku, moses just hits you with some random C rank spell which gets boosted. your NP is not boosted by ambient mana, only spells are and I doubt this being his territory you'd get the use of it.
Lancer never fought an army. because he would lose.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:23

Lancer gets raped up the ass hole .... plain and simple
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:24

I didn't pull that out of my ass, that was almost directly quoted from Fate/stay night.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:25

if your weapon had been a mace and you had been a berserker, I would have found this a closer match, but the weapon your character uses is not suited for killing multiple enemies.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:26

lancers fight one on one ... now if you had an anti army phantasm
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:27

even then, the insane advantage moses has here is overpowering. Sandow wouldn't just need a move that evens the playing field, he would need a move that moses is inherently weak against based on moses' build.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:27

@Capitalist Pig wrote:I don't have to skewer them, lances are used primarily as slashing weapons. If they surround me, spin around and slash, klling them all.
Quote from the "Lance" wiki page " The term from the 17th century came to refer specifically to spears not thrown, used for thrusting by heavy cavalry, and especially in jousting. The Roman cavalry long thrusting spear was not called lance, but contus (from Greek language kontos, barge-pole). It was usually 3 to 4 m long, and grasped with both hands. It was used by equites contariorum and equites catafractarii, fully armed and armoured cataphracts."

you pulled that out of your ass shut up, failure

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:31

This isn't real life, this is the Nasuverse, in which all Lancers use their weapons for slashing, not a single one who doesn't.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:31

once again ... raped up the ass
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:31

no he didn't, he is most likely trying to use the spear like a halberd or glaive, which is similar to the lance except that it slashes instead of piercing (well the halberd can do both). But sandow you specified this weapon to have a spear head and not a blade for a head. Thus this weapon can not slash effectively.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:32

@Capitalist Pig wrote:This isn't real life, this is the Nasuverse, in which all Lancers use their weapons for slashing, not a single one who doesn't.
how exactly do you intend to slash with a spear from horse back?

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:33

1. How long do you expect to spin around like a retard without getting dizzy
2. Regardless of how fast you spin, eventually you will be hit by a sword/spell and die
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:35

uhm, he can spin in different directions to avoid getting dizzy, but the mass amount of people is the major problem here. This is not like against merlin, where this guy would have absolutely crushed merlin. Insta win against the dragons, then go stabby stab merlin. But moses has a horde type of units following him, which are miserable for pretty much any non caster class to fight. Aside from odysseus and maybe one other.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:36

Assassin may have been able to blow them all up, but Assassin isn't the one fighting here

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-07, 22:37

Its almost Ironic that I lose here for the same reason I lose at Crucis:No ranged attacks.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:37

Its a stupid lancer ... and really ... no magic resistance at all
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:38

he has E ranked, at that level it's basically a point sink

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-10-07, 22:40

o wow.... i luv how i won this without actually saying anything...... ty for ur support guyz, and really.... wtf..... a slashing lance.... u cud swing it, but it wudn't b quite as lethal or effetive as stabbing..... plus the israelites aren't zombies.... look at their stats......
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:41

yeah, for that one point he could have made one of his NP's anti- army, oh well, it sucks to be him

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:42

Yeah they are pretty powerful israelites...
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-07, 22:42

yeah its over, once 6 votes are in, if someone has a 2 point or higher lead, its game over. Caster wins.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-07, 22:43

Don't start the next round till tommorow afternoon ... i'm going to sleep
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-07, 22:43

fine, whatever, lock it up, Caster is declared winner

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-10-07, 22:44

locked....
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-08, 11:10

Darkgenesis wrote:uhm, he can spin in different directions to avoid getting dizzy, but the mass amount of people is the major problem here. This is not like against merlin, where this guy would have absolutely crushed merlin. Insta win against the dragons, then go stabby stab merlin. But moses has a horde type of units following him, which are miserable for pretty much any non caster class to fight. Aside from odysseus and maybe one other.

amos you take all the other classes far too lightly...Archers would just pick off moses at range, and maybe snipe all the israelites if they're blocking his scope, and Assassin could just sneak past them, blending into the crowd, maybe he'd be detected if he ran into Joshua.

@Capitalist Pig wrote:Its almost Ironic that I lose here for the same reason I lose at Crucis:No ranged attacks.
That's not ironic, that is poetic justice. What would be ironic is if you used ranged attacks in one game and not the other and still lost.

itsame273 wrote:o wow.... i luv how i won this without actually saying anything...... ty for ur support guyz, and really.... wtf..... a slashing lance.... u cud swing it, but it wudn't b quite as lethal or effetive as stabbing..... plus the israelites aren't zombies.... look at their stats......
Bravery, zombies are also quite apathetic (bord...) towards explosions and stuff, they are similar.
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