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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-08, 22:03

just stumbled upon this
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-09, 00:08

so, who would win that fight?

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Post by kaede on 2010-09-09, 00:15

Hate to say it but Saber her prana burst makes her run at mach 13 and she slices through Vader like warm butter or she uses excalibur and frys him with light.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 00:18

A first strike force choke always works wonders. And I get she is made of magical energy, but at least it holds her disabled in the air while he uses his energy sword thing to kill her. Haven't you guys played battle front 2 with the cheap forcechoke?
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-09, 00:19

Darkgenesis wrote:A first strike force choke always works wonders. And I get she is made of magical energy, but at least it holds her disabled in the air while he uses his energy sword thing to kill her. Haven't you guys played battle front 2 with the cheap forcechoke?
It's called a lightsaber or a laser sword, baka.

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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 00:23

All the same I think it works, or does light have to be magical too? In order to overcome her magical defenses.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-09, 00:38

no, like it's a fugging l4zor, it would just cut through her sword cus I doubt that her sword is made out of the same stuff as the railings in Star Wars.

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Post by kaede on 2010-09-09, 00:40

Her sword is blessed by the planet and is a NP so i dobut that it can be destroyed by a light saber.

Also go play soul calibur 4 light sabers cant cut through there weapons for some reason or other.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 00:44

That is because that is a suxxor lightsaber. It's energy, I don't care how wonderfully magical you are, unless you can absorb said light, or you are not solid, it will cut through you.
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-09, 00:47

Well sabers sword absorbs light so there is a possibility that it can absorb the energy from the saber. but its all hypotheticals.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 07:34

Saber is >9000 times faster ... pwned
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 10:05

read the force choke thing
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 10:49

Immune to magic....

idk if thats magic though
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 11:18

exactly - it isn't magic - IT IS THE FORCE, idk though what that qualifies as. It doesn't really seem like magic by any standards. Seems a lot more telekinesis and telepathic influence.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 11:29

lol, i remember posting this pic in the "getting ur post count up" thread in the spam section..... too bad it was taken down
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Post by Bigz on 2010-09-09, 15:57

according to the prequels, the Force is harnessing some sort of space-bacteria.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 16:15

and is saber immune to disease?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-09, 16:21

She is technically a spirit so i'd say yes.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 16:28

logical reasoning - Saber wins
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 16:30

the prequels, are odd, and without going into a starwars fight here, this wasn't something with a large amount of source information that got turned into a glossed over movie. It was a movie set that was expanded, and the problem with expanding something is that you make up details to fill in blanks that are made when you try to expand that limited universe. 1, 2 and 3 were off base enough, but the story kinda needed a 1 , 2 and 3 - but like most people noticed they newer ones were made to appeal to be like movie whores they had characters placed to appeal to all sorts of people. Really! Mace Windu's actor was picked because he is black, and jar jar was put in for the kids. Yoda was dropped in for the nostalgia, etc. Also they did a gap in the technology, they use all these fancy sleek super high tech like ships in the first 3 movies, just to suddenly have these big blocky clunky ships in 4 , 5 and 6 (I get that 4 5 and 6 came first, but then they should have adapted 1 2 and 3 to fit that).
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Post by Bigz on 2010-09-09, 16:38

Part of the problem is that George Lucas effectively accepted most fan-fics as part of the universe, meaning that you can basically make up something on the spot and it is canon.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 16:43

So going by the original content and none of the content that was used to make money off this set of movies. Force Choke is not magical , and I don't know about sabers breathing or not but that doesn't matter, if you are suspended by your neck you can not effectively do anything. And with the lightsaber being made of laser and everything, it wouldn't seem to need to worry about being magical (or do we now have magical light in addition to magical mass).
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-09, 17:53

I believe that saber could parry, using wind to stop Vader's arm or something, so it might be an even fight. But, ultimately, my money's on Saber cause of Excalibur.

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 18:12

exactly .... don't forget avalon - the ultimate defense
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 18:20

lol, but that's not possible..... if saber won, then how could she hve turned to the dark side (dark saber aka saber alt)?
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 18:28

Again, FORCE choke, i don't recall anyone ever being able to parry that, they could block lightning with their swords, they couldn't block force chokes. And if you are suspended by your neck how the fvck are you going to use Excalibur?
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 18:30

IDC ABOUT THEIR ABILITIES!!!!!!! SABER TURNED TO DAAAAKKUUUUU SEEEEEIIIIIIIIBBAAAAAA, WHICH MEANS THAT DARTH VADER MUST HAVE WON IN ORDER TO TURN HER TO THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!!!
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 19:02

Darkgenesis wrote:Again, FORCE choke, i don't recall anyone ever being able to parry that, they could block lightning with their swords, they couldn't block force chokes. And if you are suspended by your neck how the fvck are you going to use Excalibur?

she can retreat into spirit form and then back again to get out of that, intangible ghosts can't be force choked. And while she is suspended in the air she can use prana burst to swing excalibur and activate it despite the lack of friction midair. And Darth Vader used force choke on some old guy who was standing still, don't you think maybe it'd be a bit harder to try and remote choke someone running at mach 13? So we're back into the melee field.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 19:08

DAMNIT IS THIS GONNA TURN INTO ONE OF THOSE "IT DOESN'T MATTER THE BALLZ R INNERT" CONVERSATIONS?............. CUZ

DAMNIT WAYNE, IT DOESN'T MATTER, SABER TURNS TO DARK SABER, AND HOW THE HELL WUD SHE TURN INTO DARK SABER WITHOUT BEING DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER

plus, did u forget, saber is the only heroic spirit that can't be turned into spirit form..............
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 19:13

Thats just a master technicality, with rin or kiritsugu she can.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 19:17

um.... no it's not..... did u forget about the saber parodox?

*spoilers*
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she isn't from the throne of heroes, she wished for teh holy grail before she died, so she returns to her body that's on the verge of death every time she's defeated and then right before she dies, she gets summoned again, which is why she remembers events of teh previous war

either way......
IT DOESN'T MATTER, SABER TURNS TO DARK SABER BECAUSE SHE'S DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER!!!!!!!
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 19:40

If shes not defeated in the first place, how can she turn into dark saber?

BESIDES ... saber has A+ in ability to avoid danger. I'm sure she'll avoid the stupid choke than only works on unmoving people.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 19:47

SEIBA'S STATS DON'T MATTER!!!!!!!!! SABER HAS TO BE DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER TO TURN TO THE DARK SIDE AND BECOME DARK SABER!!!!!!!!!!!! PLOT DEVELOPMENT TRUMPS ANY AND ALL STATS
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 19:48

We are in ubw xD
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 19:53

hmmmm...... this pic from hf looks surprisingly similar.......
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This is amusing Saber-True_Assassin


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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 19:54

since when did forcechoke necesarily have to reach its target, its the force, it probably just affects the target, not move the air around them. Like moving objects, the people don't move the air around the object, THEY MOVE THE OBJECT. (It is force, we don't need to justify its ability to do that, it just can). Yeah so the spirit form thing is valid, although a ) if it is just saber by herself and its legitly her, then can she still go into spirit form? if it is a master technicality , I would assume that the servant can't go into spirit form without a master. Also forcechoke is too broken to be used in real combat, it is like those deadly weapons in dramas that are only used for some swagger.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 19:57

IT DOESN'T MATTER, SABER CAN'T GO INTO SPIRIT FORM!!!!!!!!

ALSO

IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!!!! SABER HAS TO BE DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER TO TURN TO THE DARK SIDE AND BECOME DARK SABER!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 20:02

Darkgenesis wrote:since when did forcechoke necesarily have to reach its target, its the force, it probably just affects the target, not move the air around them. Like moving objects, the people don't move the air around the object, THEY MOVE THE OBJECT. (It is force, we don't need to justify its ability to do that, it just can). Yeah so the spirit form thing is valid, although a ) if it is just saber by herself and its legitly her, then can she still go into spirit form? if it is a master technicality , I would assume that the servant can't go into spirit form without a master. Also forcechoke is too broken to be used in real combat, it is like those deadly weapons in dramas that are only used for some swagger.

It is force, we don't need to justify its ability to do that, it just can? Well Saber has A+ magic resistance and danger instinct, so she can both dodge and resist the force choke, I don't need to justify her ability to do that, she just can.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 20:03

@Corenat Rovarnus wrote:
Darkgenesis wrote:since when did forcechoke necesarily have to reach its target, its the force, it probably just affects the target, not move the air around them. Like moving objects, the people don't move the air around the object, THEY MOVE THE OBJECT. (It is force, we don't need to justify its ability to do that, it just can). Yeah so the spirit form thing is valid, although a ) if it is just saber by herself and its legitly her, then can she still go into spirit form? if it is a master technicality , I would assume that the servant can't go into spirit form without a master. Also forcechoke is too broken to be used in real combat, it is like those deadly weapons in dramas that are only used for some swagger.

It is force, we don't need to justify its ability to do that, it just can? Well Saber has A+ magic resistance and danger instinct, so she can both dodge and resist the force choke, I don't need to justify her ability to do that, she just can.

itsame273 wrote:SEIBA'S STATS DON'T MATTER!!!!!!!!! SABER HAS TO BE DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER TO TURN TO THE DARK SIDE AND BECOME DARK SABER!!!!!!!!!!!! PLOT DEVELOPMENT TRUMPS ANY AND ALL STATS
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 20:07

you can dodge something that affects you? Please be like a video game character and dodge your own poisoned body. If force choke affects the target, and not via outside influence, how is it dodge able?
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 20:09

IT DOESN'T MATTER, SABER TURNS TO DARK SABER BECAUSE SHE'S DEFEATED BY DARTH VADER!!!!!!! PLOT DEVELOPMENT TRUMPS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 20:12

excuuuuse me, she turned into daku seiba after being defeated by Darth Cherry Blossom, not Vader.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 20:12

O RLY?
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-09, 20:13

Cherry Blossom sounds awfully lame for the name of a Darth, maybe for something else, but it just doesn't fit with Darth.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 20:13

Darkgenesis wrote:you can dodge something that affects you? Please be like a video game character and dodge your own poisoned body. If force choke affects the target, and not via outside influence, how is it dodge able?

well if it affects your body directly, saber is made out of mana, how hard do you think it is to crush mana in your hand? Good thing vader's got a mechanical hand or else it'd be hurting pretty badly. Oh, and Saber IS a video game character trololol
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-09, 20:16

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY'RE MADE OF OR WHERE THEY'RE FROM!!!!!!!!
PLOT DEVELOPMENT TRUMPS ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
DARTH VADER HAS TO DEFEAT SEIBA FOR SEIBA TO BECOME DAAAAKKUUUUUU SEEEEIIIBBAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

AND NO WAYNE, DARTH CHERRY BLOSSOM DIDN'T DEFEAT SEIBA, DARTH CHERRY BLOSSOM IS TOO NUB TO BE IN THE STORYLINE AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 20:44

Crushing pure mana isn't possible....


and theres is a matter of command seal assist
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-09, 20:49

what about lifting it? that seems to be amos' point now.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-09, 20:51

lifting pure mana .... what kind of crap is this?

darth vader is a old, slow noob. Saber is king of knights. now letsee...... saber
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-09, 21:00

d00d, Darth Vader was 1337n3ss incarnate before 1337 was even a word., don't you care call him a n00b in my section.

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