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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 10:24

For reference, click first image for the rules of Nomic, the second for the List of Laws, and the third for the Ballot Sheet.
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For consistensy purposes, please follow the formatting in the google documents and when proposing a new law or amendment in the Nomic thread, and please start off your proposal posts with the number of the law/amendment and the proposial both encased in brackets.
ie: [301. Whatever law I wanna propose].
Turn order will follow sign up order as indicated by the ballot sheet (left to right). Only one person can propose a law/amendment at a time and the law/amendment in question can be approved/denied as soon as everyone has voted, and no sooner. The person who proposed the law/amendment in question is responsible for its approval/denial on the List of Laws. Anyone can change their own vote before the proposer has marked the law/amendment in question's approval/denial.

Other than these rules on proposal posting, feel free to post discussion or whatever you'd like in this thread whenever and however you'd like.
Also keep track of your own score with a number at the end of all your posts.

If you want to join in the middle, just post that you're interested in this thread, and join in on the next vote/proposal (also read the rules).
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-24, 14:56

Proposal 301: If a player performs a successful transmutation, they receive the title of "Alchemist". On their turn, an Alchemist may choose to add their dice roll result to everyone's score instead of just their own.

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 15:24

For the sake of clarity, lets also have a person with their title post their titles along with their score.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-24, 16:35

My turn brothers.

302. At the beginning of each cycle (when the last player on the order of names completes his or her turn), all players roll 1d6. The person with the highest roll will become the “Avatar of RNGjesus” for one cycle, and can choose to smite any unbelievers (defined by anyone who votes no to the Avatar’s proposal), which translates to deducting 6 points from their score. Because the avatar of the RNGjesus will be representing the alpha and the omega, there can only be one. In the event of a tie, the odd one out (the person who rolled lower, but does not have a duplicate score) will assume the mantle. If multiple ties occur simultaneously such that no one winner can be determined, then nobody gets to be the Avatar for that cycle.

Score: 3


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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 16:50

o man, da avatar, strikin peeps down.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-24, 16:56

Aw naw son.

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 18:23

[206a. Instead of losing 10 points, the player whose rule change was defeated will be considered a “fucktard” for one circuit of votes (in this case, until it is his/her turn to propose a rule-change again). All other players must use the term “fucktard” when referring to the player in question until they are no longer considered a “fucktard”. If a player does not do so, they will be considered a “fucktard” for a circuit of votes as well (starting from the vote in which they failed to refer to the “fucktard” as a “fucktard”.]

wow! such amendment!

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 18:35

aw nah, mah score, it's been:


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-24, 19:29

303. The DEMON LAWD has arisen! Every turn for as long as he lives, the DEMON LAWD will take a point away from every player. Aw naw! If a player rolls a 6 on their turn, they may choose to deal 1 damage to the DEMON LAWD instead of adding points to their score. The DEMON LAWD starts with 20 HP. The player who deals the finishing blow to the DEMON LAWD receives the title of Hero. and nothing else happens.

Score: 7


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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-24, 21:10

Hi-ho.

304. To promote a harmonious and agreeable environment, the alphabetic configuration “no” (n and o, no space in between) shall be hereby prohibited from use in the context of the game of Nomic. Any instance of “no” shall be replaced with “yes”, such as “nomic” now being “yesmic”, applying to any official documentation regarding the game of “yesmic”. Infringement will be met with a penalty of 2 points, while any player who is free from “no” for a single cycle will get 3 points for their compliance, and this applies indefinitely to future cycles. This will not be enforced unless a player is caught by another (so edit your posts if you catch yourself in time). This rule will not apply to the rule 304 itself, nor any before it, to allow the rule to stand without obfuscation.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-24, 21:19

Aw naw.

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-24, 21:23

[204a. Instead of gaining 10 points, the players who vote against winning proposals shall earn the title of “heretic” for a circuit.]

not a big fan of that rule.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-25, 00:02

Proposal 305: The repeal of Rule 209.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-25, 00:21

306. Reward the amount of the proposer’s die to all other members of the winning coalition if the proposal passes. Rule does not apply to the circuit in which it is instituted.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-25, 11:48

Naw way

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-25, 16:19

[202a. All who voted for a winning proposal, except for those with the title of “heretic”, shall earn points equal to the result of the die roll divided by the number of persons who voted favorably (rounded up). The proposer shall not receive any points unless he/she votes for his/her own proposal, and will only earn as many points as others who have voted favorably. If a proposal fails, no one will acquire points from the proposal die roll.]

Score: 1


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-25, 22:35

307. A player may bet on the outcome of the next turn’s die roll. If they correctly predict the exact number the die lands on, the amount they bet is added to their score. If their prediction is incorrect, the amount they bet is subtracted from their score. A single bet can be from 1 point up to 30 points.

Score: 3


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-26, 16:42

I'm betting 1 point that the next roll will be 4.

Score: 3
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-26, 16:43

lol, dangit wayne, u gotta go big or go home. I am dissapoint.

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-26, 16:53

207a. Players may sell their vote for one proposal to other players for a mutually negotiated price in points, this cannot happen if it would take a player into the negatives.

Capitalism!

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-26, 17:18

[308. All players start with 0 gold. gold can be exchanged to points and vice versa. The exchange rate is 1 point to 100 gold. This rate applies for gold to point as well as point to gold exchanges. only 200 gold or 2 points may be exchanged by each person during each proposal. Players receive 666 gold upon becoming heretics and 250 each turn after if they vote no while they are still a heretic. No player may willingly let their amount of gold become negative.]

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-26, 17:32

I bet 1 point the next roll will be 2. Score: 4
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-26, 18:19

309. The adoption of the Honor Code as mentioned below. Players do not have to follow any part of the Code, but a player can accuse another player of violating a certain tenet of the Code. If the accused has indeed committed this violation within the last circuit of turns, 3 points are subtracted from the accused player’s score and added to the accuser’s score.
The accused player can either validate the accusation, in which case they must rectify their violation and exchange the points, or invoke Judgment to resolve the dispute.

    Under the Honor Code, each player must:
  1. Correctly report their score and titles (if any) in every post.
  2. Cast a clear and unambiguous vote on every proposal they are eligible for.
  3. Change any part of their proposal after voting has begun on it.
  4. NOT change the amount of points wagered and/or the prediction of a bet after the roll has been made.

Score: 3


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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-27, 00:59

I use 200 gold.

310. Anyone who votes “yes” or the equivalent of which for a full circuit shall be considered an apostle. Apostles will not become heretics right away when they vote “no”, but will be demoted from their status of an apostle. The next “no” will render them a heretic.


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-27, 09:24

Nomic (Initiated: 4/24/15) HOLD_IT
I accuse Xenoe of violating the first tenet of the Honor Code, by failing to report his score.
@Xenoe wrote:I use 200 gold.

310. Anyone who votes “yes” or the equivalent of which for a full circuit shall be considered an apostle. Apostles will not become heretics right away when they vote “no”, but will be demoted from their status of an apostle. The next “no” will render them a heretic.
Also, I'm betting 2 points the next roll will be 3.

Current Score: 6
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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-27, 09:48

Nomic (Initiated: 4/24/15) 185?cb=20141224044116

I seek judgement.

My score and titles are constantly reported, "...in every post..." on the ballot sheet.

According to dictionary.com.

in:

preposition
1.
(used to indicate inclusion within space, a place, or limits):
walking in the park.
2.
(used to indicate inclusion within something abstract or immaterial):
in politics; in the autumn.
3.
(used to indicate inclusion within or occurrence during a period or limit of time):
in ancient times; a task done in ten minutes.

4.
(used to indicate limitation or qualification, as of situation, condition, relation, manner, action, etc.):
to speak in a whisper; to be similar in appearance.
5.
(used to indicate means):
sketched in ink; spoken in French.
6.
(used to indicate motion or direction from outside to a point within) into :
Let's go in the house.
7.
(used to indicate transition from one state to another):
to break in half.

I am not in violation of the honor code taking in for the third meaning on the list, given that you did not indicate which definition of in you are using, what the parameters of "a post" are, it can be without a doubt interpreted as a time frame of posting once, given that that is one of the definitions of in, and a post can be a unit of time.

i.e. during a post
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-27, 10:40

Law 309 clearly states that scores and titles must be reported in their posts
After becoming a heretic, Felix has failed to report his title; and although he has updated his score and gold on the google sheet, he did not update them in his post.
I find Felix "Xenoe" to be Guilty.


Now, that that's done, it's time for me to accuse wayne

@Corenat Rovarnus wrote:I bet 1 point the next roll will be 2. Score: 4
In this post, no score was listed. and this post is currently within the time limit of law 309 of one circuit.


In addition to this accusation, I also wish to accuse Felix of not casting a clear and unambiguous vote for several rounds.

a few of his past responses within the past circuit include "mine", "CAPITALISM", and "Ho CAPITALISM", none of which contain a clear form of yes, or no, although yes or no can be implied in several of these answers.


Score: 9
Gold: 0
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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-27, 11:02

Ok resolved, wayne is not guilty because he has a score.
My votes will not be retroactively effected by the law, so i am not guilty either.

Score: -27, title: heretic.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-27, 11:21

[311. A picture of a cat must be posted in every non-proposal post on the main Nomic thread.]

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-27, 11:25

I disagree with Kelvin's accusation on the grounds that "mine" could be interpreted as Felix voting FOR his own proposal.
Unfortunately the other two accusations are preemptively invalidated by rule 107, as the votes occurred before the Honor Code and 309 were approved.

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-27, 11:26

oops forgot to role.

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Post by testuser on 2015-04-27, 11:26

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Post by Xenoe on 2015-04-27, 11:58

Use more 200 gold, gain gold: 250, for kelvin's turn.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2015-04-27, 13:21

Current Score: 7
In the interest of saving time and judicial headaches, I propose the following amendment:
309a. A player may not make more than one accusation per turn.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2015-04-27, 13:22

O man. So if I commit 10 wrongdoings I can only be called on 2 per turn.
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