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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-03, 23:02

This is my opinion on the how good people at lol (I will try to constantly update this if I am confinced one way or another that a stat should be changed). I will not list tiers as I feel like different traits may fit better or worse into different situations (as in, sometimes one stat may be far superior to another, altho in a different situation it might not mean powerofpoo)
Feel free to criticize and reason with me, but I will not update the stats if I am not convinced, because this is how I view people, not necessarily the actual stats

These traits are:
Laning Skill - How well one is able to farm minions, harrass the enemy, and sustain oneself
Map Awareness - How well one is able to discern the location and status of enemy as well as teammates
Juking - How well one is able to escape from (ambushes)
Ganking - How well one is able to secure a kill while ambushing the enemy
Teamwork - How well one is able to perform their role that they have assumed (carry, tank, support,etc) during teamfights and communicating during laning phase
Coordination - How well one is able to coordinate with their team, whether it's leading, or acting as a cog in the gears of your team as (mostly by knowing where to be in different situations)
Rage Resistance - How well one is able to resist rage and make stupid mistakes because of it as well as how long it takes one to cool down
Versatility - Basically how many champions and of what roles one is proficient with
Error Identification - The ability to see where things went wrong, especially for yourself (as well as being able to learn from mistakes)

Scale:
Summoner Stats Bar-1Pretty Fking Bad/Doesn't use this skill - 1/10
Summoner Stats Bar-5(Average) Mid Tier Silver (about 1500 elo) - 5/10
Summoner Stats Bar-10Pro (standards based off of Team Solo Mid's (TSM) Gameplay

**(Please note that Error Identification IS NOT one's learning curve, although it contributes)
**(protip: press ctrl+a to view the text in a spoiler after opening it)
**(about the pictures, I found them on Facebook, so no one's privacy is being breached more that it already was)

Summoner Stats Amos_k10Amos Kern-Perets (engio)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Austin Wei (lordofalucard)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Vroop10Vroopmaster Law (Vroop)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Brad_r10Brad Ragazinsky (Betrayed 1336)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Chris_10Chris Lee (SuperB00)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Daniel Sun (dsun23)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

David Lee (Itzdlee)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Daniel Luu (squishguin)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Felix_10Felix Zhou (Eternitysky)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Herrou10H4ris God (herroUrYerro)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Hh10Hentai Ham Premium Service (HentaiHam)
Spoiler:
Summoner Stats XXX-logoLaning Skill - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoMap Awareness - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoJuking - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoGanking - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoTeamwork - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoCoordination - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoRage Resistance - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoVersatility - XXX
Summoner Stats XXX-logoError Identification - XXX

Jack Zhu (LiquidJack)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Jake_k10Jake Koenig (Delicious Embryos)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Johnny10Johnny Law (vroopapprentice)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Jonath10Jonathan Lee (aznsinman)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Hobo10Kai-Wario Chang (itsame273)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Kevin_10Kevin Chu (Kevindakilla)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Kevin_11Kevin Mei (AdmiralDrake)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Marc_t10Marc Torres (MercuriaX)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Matt_b10Matthew Bird (Soulreviver)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Michael Mcgrew (JackThursby)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Nirmal10Nirmal Patel (nirmalspeed)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Rahul_10Rahul Ragunathan (jinjosmcs)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Roger Wang (Mantoss)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Richar10Richard Nam (gachasinx)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Psychological Warfare - ???
Versatility - 2/10 - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Sandow10Sandow Sinai (PapitalistCig)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Sean Dao (Nullset12)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Sean Wang (SenZergKing)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Admin10Kooay Kueh (RedHawkX)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???

Summoner Stats Weilon10Weilong Li (chweris)
Spoiler:
Laning Skill - ???
Map Awareness - ???
Juking - ???
Ganking - ???
Teamwork - ???
Coordination - ???
Rage Resistance - ???
Versatility - ???
Error Identification - ???


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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2011-11-03, 23:22

I deserve higher than that in rage resistance, an 8 or 9 at least. I never really get mad.
EDIT: I also want more in teamwork because I can actually do decent support as Janna and more in psychological warfare because I have been known to troll them into GAY-MOS up quite frequently. And spoiler tags would be useful, this post is meganormous


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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-03, 23:23

dude, ur always talking about how ur with noobs and powerofpoo like that, ruining ur game.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2011-11-03, 23:26

That's QQing for the sake of QQing, not because I'm actually that mad.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-03, 23:27

i realize that, i gave u a 5, bcuz what u do, is about what the average lol player does imo, they complain about noobs and powerofpoo too
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2011-11-03, 23:29

:okay:
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-04, 01:46

@Capitalist Pig wrote:EDIT: I also want more in teamwork because I can actually do decent support as Janna and more in psychological warfare because I have been known to troll them into GAY-MOS up quite frequently. And spoiler tags would be useful, this post is meganormous

i'll put spoilers in. i'll raise ur psych, but i haven't seen u pley Janna, so until I do, the stat will remain as is.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2011-11-04, 11:19

It's kinda disturbing how you felt too lazy to resize the score bars but you weren't too lazy to find all of our pictures and frame them in a league of legends thingy
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-04, 11:27

It's not that im too lazy to resize, i don't feel a need to, it looks fine as it is
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2011-11-04, 12:20

12:32 AM
me: u already have stupid huge bar thingies so idc
Kai-Wario: lol i blame mobafire
these r the mobafire bars
me: well i blame u cuz ur too lazy to resize and rehost
Kai-Wario: yes i am too lazy

you don't feel the need to = lazy
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2011-11-04, 13:06

time to be a nina and call bias because keruvin's in the #1 spot (tied with felix for 78) trolololololo
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-04, 14:22

yes, I am too lazy to do things of which i feel aren't necessary, but i am not too lazy to do things of which i feel like doing or feel are necessary. also sandow, firs of all these statistics r imo so of course they are biased, please read the description, these are statistics based on how I see people (although i try to minimizze as much as possible, if u believe something i posted about myself is not deserved, please state so, if I am convinced that this is the case, then I will change the stats), and second of all, the sum of all attributes don't mean ur player score. different stats are applicable fore different situations, thus i do not believe that felix and i r the best.

EDIT: wow... Kooay y did u add total score, I told you not to..... Total score doesn't apply because different stats r useful in different situations, and in some games, some stats aren't useful at all
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Post by InteroVegas on 2011-11-04, 17:21

why the GAY-MOS is psychological warfare a stat?

If pro means pro as in closer to being a pro lol player - then this stat shouldn't be here. You've seen the gameplay, and the teams do almost no all chatting at all - and they never rage in tournaments (not in the match itself at least). I feel like that takes away from me and Aznsin.

As for rage resistance I still think that stat is negligible - but w/e mainly I want to argue I think it is incorrect for me.

I get angry easily - I embrace it, I don't see the big deal about getting angry : if an democrat is gonna be an democrat, get angry. But that does NOT influence my gameplay as much as that bar says it does. I don't focus people who make me angry - I play the same for better or for worse. So I think rage resistance either needs to get raised or needs to be split into two different stats. Because how easily you get angry, and how much being angry affects your gameplay are two different things.

Then I want to argue for Felix's co-ordination to get lower: to me that is probably his number 1 problem as a LoL player - he doesn't work in a team. If the team matches his pace then sure powerofpoo is great, but if the team can't match his pace then things go sour for them. The other stuff seems pretty in line.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-04, 17:42

read the bar comments, pretty pro (10/10) doesn't mean close to being a pro player, it means being in the range of somewhere around just good to being a pro player.

I'll rework psych and rage to fit the roles u described

srry amos, i don't share ur opinion on felix, so i will not update that
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2011-11-04, 19:04

itsame273 wrote:wow... Kooay y did u add total score, I told you not to..... Total score doesn't apply because different stats r useful in different situations, and in some games, some stats aren't useful at all
I'm glad you think it doesn't apply or mean anything, but it doesn't mean the numbers do not exist. You can't ignore it. If you don't like people rubbing in/whining about individuals being overall better than others then don't make a list of these things in the first place because someone will go and whine about it anyway. Maybe your intent was to prevent people from just skimming over total scores and going like oh hur this guy's better, which is noble, but even if you don't explicitly list it people can still just go "oh this guy has a bunch of higher bars he's better" the same stupid generalization we want to prevent.

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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2011-11-04, 21:17

if ppl aren't stupid and read, unlike a certain someone *cough sandow *cough, they will realize that the added numbers aren't how the system works... overall scores do not exist in this because life doesnt care about what ur overall score is. if u have a situation in which u need a certain skill, but some1 with a lower overall score that has a higher score in that stat is there, you will lose to that person.I have nothing against rubbing a better score in some1 else's face, but that's only if the score applies WHICH IT DOESN'T IN THIS CASE (which is why i don't want u to put in the overall score). yea, i'm not gonna rub my score in other's faces, but i really couldn't care less if u or amos did
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2012-08-06, 12:34

Leaving this here for when you get back:

I believe both matt and I have definitely improved from recent games.

I have gotten slightly better at juking and laning, IMO I deserve a definite increase in versatility, I can now play every role, and have done well as every role in more than just a few games. Although I still dislike playing ranged AD.
I have over 40 champions, and they are NOT all AP mid carries.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2012-08-06, 16:39

o man... OH MAYNE!!!
i forgot about this list a while back, time to update.

EDIT: ... meh i'm too lazy to do this now... for now... IT'S ALL QUESTION MARKS!!!
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2012-08-07, 00:36

Your scale doesn't linearly measure ability. 75% of the playerbase is below 1250. This means that you have to be in the top 15-20% of players just to get 5/10
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2012-08-07, 09:14

That many people in elo hell? Where do you get that number?
I suppose if it's true we might as well start project Occupy Riot Games - We are the 75%
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2012-08-07, 09:39

@Capitalist Pig wrote:Your scale doesn't linearly measure ability. 75% of the playerbase is below 1250. This means that you have to be in the top 15-20% of players just to get 5/10
notice that this is a stats list, not an overall tier list. people may have components in their gameplay that are at a certain level although the other components of their gameplay aren't as good
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2012-08-07, 09:40

@Corenat Rovarnus wrote:That many people in elo hell? Where do you get that number?
I suppose if it's true we might as well start project Occupy Riot Games - We are the 75%

The stat's from end of season 1, and it's thrown around a lot on reddit, not sure 'bout a source
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2012-08-07, 14:37

Season 1 is not a very legit season, they've made a lot of changes since then so it's not the best scale to use for skill today. Besides, Kai-Wario is trying to make his numbers up to date(or at least make it look like he did), so you should do so too.
itsame273 wrote:meh i'm too lazy to do this now... for now... IT'S ALL QUESTION MARKS!!!
You realize that by doing this, your actions have called all our skills....into question..... Cool
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2012-08-07, 19:18

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Post by nullset12 on 2012-08-19, 20:07

Well this hasn't been updated in a while
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2012-08-19, 22:26

yeah seriously man, put in the actual ratings already, that's pretty much all this topic is for anyways and if they aren't there then its useless.
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