Most powerful nasuverse characters

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 18:45

This list contains many spoilers. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Top 10 most powerful nasuverse characters .... open to discussion

1. Zelretch - The second magic is uber powerful.
2. Type Moon - is the "Ultimate Being of the Moon", classified as the Type-Moon Ultimate One.
3. Arcueid Brunestud - She singlehandedly wiped out all of the remaining True Ancestors.
4. Tatari - Practically invincible and can recreate your worst nightmares
5. Gilgamesh - need i say, GATE OF BABYLOWNED! (commence blade spam)
6. Nero Chaos - Practically immortal. Has an endless number of bodies.
7. Lancelot - Awesome Knight - Has uber noble phantasm
8. Saber - King of knights. Amazing speed. Just plain awesome.
9. Archer - must i say, UNRIMITED BLADE WORKS? - and he can trace avalon perfectly with a minimal amount of mana
10. Ryougi Shiki - can destroy reality through her eyes of death perception

This list is up to debate for me and my fellow nasuverse people i am well aware that there must be others that are more powerful so feel free to make comments

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-07, 18:55

I'd agree with you, but the the 'unofficial power listings' says otherwise:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070517194040/fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Totally+unofficial+power+rankings

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 19:06

How could anyone beat ryougi .... she can destroy the world

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-07, 19:19

I am loving how gilgamesh is really high up on that list.

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 19:20

Brunestud of the Crimson Moon (and all the types for that matter) are stronger than ryougi because they do not have a concept of earthly death (or something like that) because they are not from earth so the EODP would be null against them. Just my opinion but Gun God with his gun equiped is the strongest because his gun can kill the types easier than most begins in his time (besides ado edem with his slash emperor which uses the dead earth to get make itself)

So my list

1) Gun God Black barrel equiped
2) Type Moon
3) Zelretch (Young)
4) Ado edem
(Serious power downgrade here because there are to many that are powerful)
5) Arcueid Brunestud (Pre Roa incident)
6) Gilgamesh
7) Lancelot
8 ) Saber
9) Archer (backed with the power boost from Arayashiki)
10) Ryougi Shiki (Arayashiki personality)

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 19:30

In terms of destructive power, ryougi can destroy the universe without even trying.

But in terms of actual battle capacity, she falls short i agree.

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 19:45

True but you never specify which Ryougi Shiki there is the regular which is a good fighter in her own right but is limited to her human bounderies.

Then there is Ryougi Shiki (Void) which is her third personality connected to Arayashiki which can possibly do that but Arayashiki only gives enough power to triumph over a foe. And of course her saying that she can destroy reality is a claim so that could mean she either has the power or she is bluffing.

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-07, 19:53

um wtf is the arayashiki?

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 19:54

I have the same question .....

How is archer powered by this also?

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 19:55

Arayashiki (阿頼耶識, Arayashiki?) or Alaya (アラヤ, Araya?), the unconscious, universal will of humans to avoid destruction.

Basically the one who makes counter guardians.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:02

Ohh ... i'm just familiar with alaya.

Is it truely reasonable to say lancelot is stronger? His noble phantasm - usage of anything - requires a lot of mana. In a straightfoward brawl, saber has superior swordsmanship

by ZedSlayer 2010-09-07, 20:15

please remember that Gilgamesh can rip the world in two as well.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:17

well ....

Can he do that with minimal effort? No. he needs to activate EA with mana before doing that. Ryougi(3rd state) can do that by just stabbing the ground

by ZedSlayer 2010-09-07, 20:18

yes, but Gil can probably do it faster

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:26

We do not know that.... ryougi's stabbing is instantaneous death. So figuratively, he/she is "killing" the entire world at once.

BTW you haven't read kara no kyoukai so why bother arguing?

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 20:29

Eternal Arms Mastership: Prevents degradation of fighting skills when under the effect of mental hindrance.

A+: Mastership of combat arts has reached the point of being said to be unrivaled in one's era. By complete merging of mind, body and technique, it is possible to make use of full fighting skills even when under the influence of any sort of mental hindrance.

So in effect they are on par in fighting skills but on power lancelot has more power due to his Arondight effect of upping all stats by one and it deals more damage to dragon attributes which saber has.

Also you must remember i'm using full power arc the one that was used to kill out of control TA the one in tsukihime only uses 30% power( which from Kinoko Nasu's mouth says is as strong as 4 servants while gil is 5). now imagine Arc at 100% she is as strong as at least 13 servants so gil would have no chance against her.

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-07, 20:34

kaede wrote:Arayashiki (阿頼耶識, Arayashiki?) or Alaya (アラヤ, Araya?), the unconscious, universal will of humans to avoid destruction.

Basically the one who makes counter guardians.

If its just the will of humans, then wouldn't Gaia(the spirit of the world), Type Moon, and the Aristoteles be stronger than it? They wiped out humanity in Notes, so I doubt Ryougi Shiki could actually take on the Ultimate Ones.

ZedSlayer wrote:please remember that Gilgamesh can rip the world in two as well.

nullset12 wrote:well ....

Can he do that with minimal effort? No. he needs to activate EA with mana before doing that. Ryougi(3rd state) can do that by just stabbing the ground

ZedSlayer wrote:yes, but Gil can probably do it faster

Apparently in larry's world taking a ceremonial sword out, calling its name, powering up and then blasting is waay faster than sticking a sharp stick/blade in the ground. Unfortunately the Nasuverse doesn't work that way, so he died.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:34

Bumped! Point taken.

Now is she superior to tatari?

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 20:37

She summons the red moon and crushes him like a bug.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:38

Point taken *bumped*

She cannot defeat type moon of course ... that would be a paradox

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 20:40

Thats why she is lower though technecially he is dead already.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:45

Thats why zelretch is higher than type moon.

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-07, 20:49

cuz he is cool like that

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 20:52

Again i'd say gun god with his gun equiped can kill Zelretch because his guns ability forces the concept of "natural life" on the undead to remove their immortality then age catches up to them and they die.

And when used against a type it basically uses the grain stored in there bodies against them and kills them.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 20:57

I've never heard of god gun before .....

I can't find him anywhere. What is he in?

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 21:03

Read Notes.

Much of his power is explained in character material though.

by ZedSlayer 2010-09-07, 21:05

how long does it take to reach level 3 though ( Yes, I have not read KNK I might as well play devil's advocate)

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 21:28

level three of what?

by ZedSlayer 2010-09-07, 21:32

wait a minute, according to the link that Wayne posted some one is weaker than Shinji, is that possible?

by **nullset12** 2010-09-07, 21:36

supposedly that person must be a uber fail ....

by **The Lord Kelvin** 2010-09-07, 21:42

.... the character does have the prefix of "fake" u know......

by ZedSlayer 2010-09-07, 21:46

Yes, but still, this is SHINJI we're talking about here.

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-07, 22:22

do people at the gravel level of power really need to be ranked, can't they be like "and here are the rest of the nobodies"

by **M. Ainsel** 2010-09-07, 23:51

Wouldn't Saber be higher up on the list than Gil? In a mono y mono in Fate route, Saber won. Sure gilgamesh has that world ending sword, but you know he wouldn't ever use it, because then he just nukes his playground.

by **kaede** 2010-09-07, 23:55

No in terms of power gil is stronger than saber. Saber won because of plot if she lost then shirou would have been killed and that would have been bad for a story.

by **M. Ainsel** 2010-09-08, 00:00

Shirou dying doesn't mean bad ending, cuse we all know what happens in heavens feel.

And that reminds me, where does Dark Saber fit on the scale?

by **kaede** 2010-09-08, 00:03

Doh thought you said sakura. about the same as regular saber.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-08, 05:50

Dark sakura needs to be up there somewhere ...

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-08, 13:42

ZedSlayer wrote:Yes, but still, this is SHINJI we're talking about here.

ahaahahahahha.

MarthMarthy wrote:Shirou dying doesn't mean bad ending, cuse we all know what happens in heavens feel.

And that reminds me, where does Dark Saber fit on the scale?

No, we do not all know what happens in heaven's feel, that is a spoiler. And we'll just make our own list.

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 15:19

your one comment totally killed this subject because there was nothing to reply to there, so lets take it a step back to sean daos, where would you place Dark Sakura up there ( I don't even care if she up there I didn't see it, just jumpstarting this topic)

by **nullset12** 2010-09-14, 15:22

I would easily put her as 11 on my list of ten .. shes overpowered

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 15:26

That what happens to crazy people

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-14, 15:43

dark sakura killed gilgamesh, and I think Aoko deserves a spot up there.

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 15:52

well apparently gil is somehow above her.

by **nullset12** 2010-09-14, 15:53

Well gil just is ... he just took it easy.

and aoko could probably replace ryougi?

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 16:27

kamehameha gander shot only goes so far.

by **Corenat Rovarnus** 2010-09-14, 16:43

excuse me amos are you implying aoko uses gandr shots? She does NOT! And there is no such thing as a kamehameha gandr shot except in the fsn manga which is retarded.

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 16:59

felix told me that aoko's attacks are gandr shots, and that that is why she is called the magic gunner

by **nullset12** 2010-09-14, 16:59

~~Are you mistaking aoko with rin?~~

There isn't much on her even on the wikia. How would he know that? All anyone knows is that she loves breaking things, is shiki's sensei , and is a user of the 5th magic

by **InteroVegas** 2010-09-14, 17:01

no, play mbac, she fires freaking kamehamehas out of her finger.

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