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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 18:45

This list contains many spoilers. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Top 10 most powerful nasuverse characters .... open to discussion

1. Zelretch - The second magic is uber powerful.
2. Type Moon - is the "Ultimate Being of the Moon", classified as the Type-Moon Ultimate One.
3. Arcueid Brunestud - She singlehandedly wiped out all of the remaining True Ancestors.
4. Tatari - Practically invincible and can recreate your worst nightmares
5. Gilgamesh - need i say, GATE OF BABYLOWNED! (commence blade spam)
6. Nero Chaos - Practically immortal. Has an endless number of bodies.
7. Lancelot - Awesome Knight - Has uber noble phantasm
8. Saber - King of knights. Amazing speed. Just plain awesome.
9. Archer - must i say, UNRIMITED BLADE WORKS? - and he can trace avalon perfectly with a minimal amount of mana
10. Ryougi Shiki - can destroy reality through her eyes of death perception


This list is up to debate for me and my fellow nasuverse people i am well aware that there must be others that are more powerful so feel free to make comments


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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-07, 18:55

I'd agree with you, but the the 'unofficial power listings' says otherwise:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070517194040/fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Totally+unofficial+power+rankings
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 19:06

How could anyone beat ryougi .... she can destroy the world
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-07, 19:19

I am loving how gilgamesh is really high up on that list.
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 19:20

Brunestud of the Crimson Moon (and all the types for that matter) are stronger than ryougi because they do not have a concept of earthly death (or something like that) because they are not from earth so the EODP would be null against them. Just my opinion but Gun God with his gun equiped is the strongest because his gun can kill the types easier than most begins in his time (besides ado edem with his slash emperor which uses the dead earth to get make itself)

So my list

1) Gun God Black barrel equiped
2) Type Moon
3) Zelretch (Young)
4) Ado edem
(Serious power downgrade here because there are to many that are powerful)
5) Arcueid Brunestud (Pre Roa incident)
6) Gilgamesh
7) Lancelot
8 ) Saber
9) Archer (backed with the power boost from Arayashiki)
10) Ryougi Shiki (Arayashiki personality)
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 19:30

In terms of destructive power, ryougi can destroy the universe without even trying.

But in terms of actual battle capacity, she falls short i agree.
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 19:45

True but you never specify which Ryougi Shiki there is the regular which is a good fighter in her own right but is limited to her human bounderies.

Then there is Ryougi Shiki (Void) which is her third personality connected to Arayashiki which can possibly do that but Arayashiki only gives enough power to triumph over a foe. And of course her saying that she can destroy reality is a claim so that could mean she either has the power or she is bluffing.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-07, 19:53

um wtf is the arayashiki?
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 19:54

I have the same question .....

How is archer powered by this also?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 19:55

Arayashiki (阿頼耶識, Arayashiki?) or Alaya (アラヤ, Araya?), the unconscious, universal will of humans to avoid destruction.

Basically the one who makes counter guardians.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:02

Ohh ... i'm just familiar with alaya.

Is it truely reasonable to say lancelot is stronger? His noble phantasm - usage of anything - requires a lot of mana. In a straightfoward brawl, saber has superior swordsmanship
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-07, 20:15

please remember that Gilgamesh can rip the world in two as well.

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:17

well ....

Can he do that with minimal effort? No. he needs to activate EA with mana before doing that. Ryougi(3rd state) can do that by just stabbing the ground
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-07, 20:18

yes, but Gil can probably do it faster

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:26

We do not know that.... ryougi's stabbing is instantaneous death. So figuratively, he/she is "killing" the entire world at once.

BTW you haven't read kara no kyoukai so why bother arguing?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 20:29

Eternal Arms Mastership: Prevents degradation of fighting skills when under the effect of mental hindrance.

A+: Mastership of combat arts has reached the point of being said to be unrivaled in one's era. By complete merging of mind, body and technique, it is possible to make use of full fighting skills even when under the influence of any sort of mental hindrance.

So in effect they are on par in fighting skills but on power lancelot has more power due to his Arondight effect of upping all stats by one and it deals more damage to dragon attributes which saber has.

Also you must remember i'm using full power arc the one that was used to kill out of control TA the one in tsukihime only uses 30% power( which from Kinoko Nasu's mouth says is as strong as 4 servants while gil is 5). now imagine Arc at 100% she is as strong as at least 13 servants so gil would have no chance against her.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-07, 20:34

@kaede wrote:Arayashiki (阿頼耶識, Arayashiki?) or Alaya (アラヤ, Araya?), the unconscious, universal will of humans to avoid destruction.

Basically the one who makes counter guardians.
If its just the will of humans, then wouldn't Gaia(the spirit of the world), Type Moon, and the Aristoteles be stronger than it? They wiped out humanity in Notes, so I doubt Ryougi Shiki could actually take on the Ultimate Ones.

@ZedSlayer wrote:please remember that Gilgamesh can rip the world in two as well.
@nullset12 wrote:well ....

Can he do that with minimal effort? No. he needs to activate EA with mana before doing that. Ryougi(3rd state) can do that by just stabbing the ground
@ZedSlayer wrote:yes, but Gil can probably do it faster
Apparently in larry's world taking a ceremonial sword out, calling its name, powering up and then blasting is waay faster than sticking a sharp stick/blade in the ground. Unfortunately the Nasuverse doesn't work that way, so he died.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:34

Bumped! Point taken.

Now is she superior to tatari?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 20:37

She summons the red moon and crushes him like a bug.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:38

Point taken *bumped*

She cannot defeat type moon of course ... that would be a paradox
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 20:40

Thats why she is lower though technecially he is dead already.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:45

Thats why zelretch is higher than type moon.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-07, 20:49

cuz he is cool like that
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 20:52

Again i'd say gun god with his gun equiped can kill Zelretch because his guns ability forces the concept of "natural life" on the undead to remove their immortality then age catches up to them and they die.

And when used against a type it basically uses the grain stored in there bodies against them and kills them.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 20:57

I've never heard of god gun before .....

I can't find him anywhere. What is he in?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 21:03

Read Notes.

Much of his power is explained in character material though.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-07, 21:05

how long does it take to reach level 3 though ( Yes, I have not read KNK I might as well play devil's advocate)

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 21:28

level three of what?

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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-07, 21:32

wait a minute, according to the link that Wayne posted some one is weaker than Shinji, is that possible?

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-07, 21:36

supposedly that person must be a uber fail ....
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Post by The Lord Kelvin on 2010-09-07, 21:42

.... the character does have the prefix of "fake" u know......
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-09-07, 21:46

Yes, but still, this is SHINJI we're talking about here.

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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-07, 22:22

do people at the gravel level of power really need to be ranked, can't they be like "and here are the rest of the nobodies"
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Post by M. Ainsel on 2010-09-07, 23:51

Wouldn't Saber be higher up on the list than Gil? In a mono y mono in Fate route, Saber won. Sure gilgamesh has that world ending sword, but you know he wouldn't ever use it, because then he just nukes his playground.
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-07, 23:55

No in terms of power gil is stronger than saber. Saber won because of plot if she lost then shirou would have been killed and that would have been bad for a story.
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Post by M. Ainsel on 2010-09-08, 00:00

Shirou dying doesn't mean bad ending, cuse we all know what happens in heavens feel.

And that reminds me, where does Dark Saber fit on the scale?
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Post by kaede on 2010-09-08, 00:03

Doh thought you said sakura. about the same as regular saber.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-08, 05:50

Dark sakura needs to be up there somewhere ...
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-08, 13:42

@ZedSlayer wrote:Yes, but still, this is SHINJI we're talking about here.
ahaahahahahha.

MarthMarthy wrote:Shirou dying doesn't mean bad ending, cuse we all know what happens in heavens feel.

And that reminds me, where does Dark Saber fit on the scale?
No, we do not all know what happens in heaven's feel, that is a spoiler. And we'll just make our own list.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 15:19

your one comment totally killed this subject because there was nothing to reply to there, so lets take it a step back to sean daos, where would you place Dark Sakura up there ( I don't even care if she up there I didn't see it, just jumpstarting this topic)
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-14, 15:22

I would easily put her as 11 on my list of ten .. shes overpowered
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 15:26

That what happens to crazy people
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-14, 15:43

dark sakura killed gilgamesh, and I think Aoko deserves a spot up there.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 15:52

well apparently gil is somehow above her.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-14, 15:53

Well gil just is ... he just took it easy.

and aoko could probably replace ryougi?
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 16:27

kamehameha gander shot only goes so far.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-09-14, 16:43

excuse me amos are you implying aoko uses gandr shots? She does NOT! And there is no such thing as a kamehameha gandr shot except in the fsn manga which is retarded.
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 16:59

felix told me that aoko's attacks are gandr shots, and that that is why she is called the magic gunner
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-09-14, 16:59

Are you mistaking aoko with rin?

There isn't much on her even on the wikia. How would he know that? All anyone knows is that she loves breaking things, is shiki's sensei , and is a user of the 5th magic
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-09-14, 17:01

no, play mbac, she fires freaking kamehamehas out of her finger.
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