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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 06:44

Posted here for your convenience. Kudos to Gil and the others.
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Hmm if you've been paying attention you'll notice how michael always plays pairings that hang around the bottom right corner, hanging around that -1 but never actually reaching it. Its like a horizontal asymptote at 1, like he doesn't want to completely fail but still does eventually. Conversely most of us main pairs in the upper half of the chart. See guys there's a reason saber's perfect for beginners. Now you n00bs who don't bother to sift through moon records can just consult this whenever we use tier jargon. Alright I know amos is going to be upset about gilgamesh being so low (Yeah I am too I understand) but its not that he's bad, its just that there's a lot of better chars.

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Post by Guest 2010-06-06, 08:29

lolz, in fact no offense michael but I don't think you have ever even tried to main a servant that was above b rank.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 14:32

Lol the only low rank character michael hasn't played as yet is caster, and he could actually win with her.
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Post by Guest 2010-06-06, 15:04

I don't get how lancer is above gilgamesh though, gilgamesh used with a good defensive and good countering can destroy lancer, though I can't really do gaurding and countering well.

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 15:19

Hmm, I guess its because gaebolg's unblockable for 1 bar, having good closing ability(charge goes 3/4 of screen), and longer combos. Felix can do what, like a 5 or 6 hit combo with gil but a 8-9 hit airgrab combo with lancer. And gil doesn't have fast trip moves. its only 2.5 points of difference though.
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Post by Guest 2010-06-06, 15:22

i get that gae bolg is great, but guard counter is always viable even if you take the chip damage, if you wait for the right moment after the charge and consecutive attacks you can pull off your characters combo (I realize this tactic works for almost everyone).

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 15:58

Lancer still has higher damage and longer combos. you realize gaebolg has the highest range of the unblockable NPs?
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Post by ZedSlayer 2010-06-06, 16:00

who pwns Saber 4b spam?

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Post by Guest 2010-06-06, 16:24

his name is sidestep

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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 16:43

Or better yet, nearly anyone's b attack. unless your b's range completely fails like rider, you can easily interrupt a retarded saber 4b spammer every single time by simply using b attack, because 4b is EXTREMELY SLOW(no exceptions) and should only be used in combos. speaking of combos, the 5b is a standard combo starter for most characters, so 4b spammers are simply setting themselves up to lose 3, maybe 4k hp per clash against an experienced player. its a good thing you're using a knight class, you might have enough time to realize your mistake before your servant dies. There are only two characters whose 4b moves are ok to spam - Berserker and caster.
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Post by Xenoe 2010-06-06, 23:36

Its not how good people are at dealing with each other, its their overall stats, lancer pwns berserker, but berserker is still higher rank.
Wayne, gil's combos have way higher damage output per hit than lancer's.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-06, 23:41

Ok so what's moon records justification for putting him lower than lancer?
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Post by Xenoe 2010-06-06, 23:41

He has nearly no rushdown, Hassan can easily spam him to death.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-07, 14:48

Well there you go AMOS gilgamesh has low speed rating.
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Post by Xenoe 2010-06-07, 15:39

Did you just purposefully type in fuuck to turn it into AMOS?
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-07, 23:53

I do that a lot now don't I.
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Post by Xenoe 2010-06-08, 19:44

F/UC testing.
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-16, 11:52

In complete honesty, i have no clue why michael picks such noob chars

Avenger == FAIL
Assasin == no health -.-

GO SABER + Sorchiro xD
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-16, 12:18

Because he has an attraction to guys with long swords and people the size of 4th graders.
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-16, 12:19

And he wants to give some mana to bazzett

It makes perfect sense
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-16, 12:23

yeah, I can't help but wonder but what happens when male master makes a contract with male servant O.O
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-16, 12:32

eww wtf?

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Post by kaede 2010-06-16, 12:38

They become like gil he had two male masters (three if you go by unlimited blade works).
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-16, 12:49

Darkgenesis wrote:yeah, I can't help but wonder but what happens when male master makes a contract with male servant O.O

man u kids are all kinda stereotyping fsn so much just from what you hear, especially michael. Seems like you know a whole lot about it even though you haven't watched the anime, read the vn or the manga. Sex isn't part of the contract retards, its to establish a channel between master and servant through which mana can flow if there isn't one already and if the master is not skilled enough to do it the easy way.
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Post by kaede 2010-06-16, 12:58

Mana flow can also be established between two magus ex rin & shirou and in a way shiki & hisui or kohaku.
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-16, 12:58

Since gil is an archer, he has A+ on independent action so he can survive for like a week

OH UR RIGHT WAYNE DANGIT -.-
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Post by Xenoe 2010-06-16, 15:37

Oh wow... Except if he uses any Noble Phantasm during that week, he will die instantaneously. The independent action rating is how efficient their movement is compared to mana, so if their master dies, they can maintain form for like a week.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-16, 15:50

How about dem Casters?
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Post by ZedSlayer 2010-06-16, 22:50

Berserker has more health than Saber AND CAN F/UC COME BACK TO LIFE AFTER YOU KILL HIM.

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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-16, 23:57

the resurrect ability doesn't help much if they have an overwhelming advantage though.
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Post by ZedSlayer 2010-06-17, 00:03

yes but if its an even fight then its a great way to interrupt a combo

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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-17, 00:09

you know it doesn't do that, he would be considered "dead" after the combo is after and rez from there. Thats why you can get a whole mana bar even after you have died, because of noble phantasm, reality marble or combo.
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-17, 07:50

Beserker is just too cheap if he has illy.

Don't even talk about command seal + beserker =.=

Its not even funny when ur using counters or stun moves and it doesn't do anything cause he's like OMG i am too cheap
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Post by The Lord Kelvin 2010-06-17, 10:12

lol, u know it can b a disadvantage cause he doesn't trip rite? he also can't block in that state...... caster's 5 rays of light 1 bar special does 4k to him...........
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-18, 21:23

though if you placed yourself so that when you command seal you are as close as you can be without them getting pushed away . . . It should all be fine.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-19, 13:22

oh plus if you still have 2 bars of mana left over from activating, you can um...kill anyone below A-tier...and all of the masters at full health...in 2 hits even if they are blocking...not telling you how though Very Happy
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Post by ZedSlayer 2010-06-20, 13:34

or nine lives blades works is Shiros version of berserker's hydra fist thing

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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-20, 13:53

1. KELVIN YOUR BACK, sweet

2. Nah Shiro is a copier, he copies beserkers weapon too.
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Post by The Lord Kelvin 2010-06-20, 14:15

lol, wtf some1 deleted my post, also, shiro's version is using berserker's sword, if berserker weren't berserk, he cud use his bow version of it..... and yeah, amos is correct, shiro copies the technique
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Post by ZedSlayer 2010-06-20, 14:31

exactly thats what I was saying

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Post by The Lord Kelvin 2010-06-20, 14:37

erm...... berserker's version is called nine, lives blade works......... it's not unique to shiro
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-20, 18:09

it's kinda obvious when you see shiro use beserkers sword only for that attack.
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-26, 08:43

When he traced the sword (axe club thing), he was unable to call upon ubw bc lacking the mana and he used 9 lives blade works instead.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-26, 10:02

Hay guys want sum awesome PUNS!!!!

Trail of Tiers!!! Michael is streaming Tierdrops from getting owned repeatedly!! Very Happy Twisted Evil
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Post by nullset12 2010-06-26, 10:15

LOLOL xD - He needs to play meroy or belmont
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-26, 10:29

no, those puns were too punny. if they were any punnier people would explode.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-06-26, 11:06

no, they would just burst out in tiers....
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-26, 11:08

*Amos shooting michaels head
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Post by The Lord Kelvin 2010-06-27, 14:42

nullset12 wrote:When he traced the sword (axe club thing), he was unable to call upon ubw bc lacking the mana and he used 9 lives blade works instead.

actually, it's because he doesn't have that reality marble anymore, since he is on a different path in life from archer shirou, that's also y ubw shirou's chant and ubw r different
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Post by InteroVegas 2010-06-27, 15:43

see kelvin should be higher up in the certified stuff (least if what he says is right) he got pro nasuverse skills.
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