Church of ProZ: Otaku Fortress
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

+3
The Lord Kelvin
nullset12
ZedSlayer
7 posters

Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-20, 02:51

Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW
who would win

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by nullset12 2010-07-20, 07:14

I believe that archer would win due to superior knowledge of weaponary use and combat.

Shiro was doing pretty well against gil at the end of ubw so i think archer could easily destroy him.

As stated in the vn, they are natural enemies.
nullset12
nullset12
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry BS
Posts : 2041
AwesomeSauce : 14

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by The Lord Kelvin 2010-07-20, 11:51

also in ubw, archer would have an infinite amount of weapons, whereas gil only has as much as is left inside his gates of babylon
The Lord Kelvin
The Lord Kelvin
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD
Posts : 2510
AwesomeSauce : 41

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-20, 14:29

doesn't he have unlimited weapons in Gates of Babylon anyways, and couldn't Archer trace Gates of Babylon? Is that possible?

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by kaede 2010-07-20, 15:00

From Fuyuki wiki:

Gate of Babylon - The King's Treasure
Spoiler:


Unlimited Blade Works - Mugen no Kensei

Spoiler:

As to weather archer can trace the gate possibly not because the materials are unknown or like ea are not from this world. And if he could I don't think he can recreate the ability of the gate.
kaede
kaede
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD
Posts : 3256
AwesomeSauce : 45

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by nullset12 2010-07-20, 17:52

I don't believe gate of babylon falls under shiro's reality marble. Its not really a sword like weapon rather its a "container".

In addition, gate of babylon would be useless as gil needed to stock it first with weapons. archer would trace it as an original without any weapons.

IN ADDITION , like kaede said, gate of babylon is not made from materials from this world so tracing it is impossible.

But either way, he has unlimited weapons.
nullset12
nullset12
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry BS
Posts : 2041
AwesomeSauce : 14

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by InteroVegas 2010-07-20, 17:56

that doesn't totally answer who wins, also do gilgamesh's items go back into the vault, or do they just get left around the place?
InteroVegas
InteroVegas
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse nub, When They Cry BS
Posts : 3948
AwesomeSauce : 5

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by kaede 2010-07-20, 18:30

They go back into the vault when gil wants them to. But you have to take into consideration that there are not only weapons inside the vault but a flying machine(seen being used against zero berserker who turned a F-15 jet ito his NP), a bomb (not sure about this just heard that there may be a bomb in there) and numerous other items.
kaede
kaede
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD
Posts : 3256
AwesomeSauce : 45

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-20, 20:20

gil's whole concept is that he owned everything in the world once, which includes bombs and he has it in gates of babylon, so yeah he probably does have a bomb in there somewhere

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-07-20, 21:14

none of the sources ever mention what sort of material the key sword is made of. Assuming it were possible for Archer to trace it, it would still be useless because he does not actually own any noble phantasms so his vault would be empty. In a battle, it depends on the circumstances. Archer's cautiousness would usually have him use long range indirect strikes to avoid extra trouble if he were allowed to optimize the situation, but Gil can simply intercept or counter(in the case of hrunting it would need to be destroyed to prevent homing in) with his own ability. This is proven possible for both sides, as shiro was able to knock gil's shots away by firing his own swords. A long range battle would be indecisive. Gil could always use Ea or a similar Anti-Fortress NP, but due to True Eye of the Mind Archer could be concealed from Gil's line of fire, or be using a decoy or some other trick. In melee combat however Archer would almost always win, because although he doesn't have the best fighting style or skills, he's still more practiced and almost certainly better than Gil in swordplay. The reason saber was having a difficult time in that final battle in Fate route despite her arguably best combat skills was that she did not have an Archer class method of intercepting GoB shots and so was split between gil's untrained strikes and blocking those deadly NPs.
Corenat Rovarnus
Corenat Rovarnus
Imperator
Imperator

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry Master
Posts : 6684
AwesomeSauce : 137

https://churchofproz.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-21, 00:22

also, the only weapon that gil won't get rammed up his ass in melee is Ea

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by nullset12 2010-07-21, 07:48

Wayne has the best argument here

In reality, archer is unable to do anything unrelated to his reality marble. Thus, he cannot trace/reinforce anything not sword related.
nullset12
nullset12
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry BS
Posts : 2041
AwesomeSauce : 14

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-21, 08:48

ok

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-07-21, 21:22

well gilgamesh could make him drunk with all the wine he has in there via sabotage.
Corenat Rovarnus
Corenat Rovarnus
Imperator
Imperator

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry Master
Posts : 6684
AwesomeSauce : 137

https://churchofproz.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by nullset12 2010-07-21, 22:07

lol - how is that even possible xD
nullset12
nullset12
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry BS
Posts : 2041
AwesomeSauce : 14

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-21, 22:28

hes Gil, "don't ask stupid questions, mongrel" is what hed say if you asked that to his face

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by kaede 2010-07-21, 23:36

Actually wouldnt he fling a sword through a random bodypart then say "don't ask stupid questions, mongrel"?
kaede
kaede
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD
Posts : 3256
AwesomeSauce : 45

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by ZedSlayer 2010-07-22, 14:42

yeah

ZedSlayer
Praetor
Praetor

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse BS
Posts : 1234
AwesomeSauce : -6

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2012-03-28, 13:47

WE'RE AN OFFICIAL SOURCE FOR SPANISH FSN FANS
http://www.mcanime.net/foro/viewtopic.php?p=6653935
Corenat Rovarnus
Corenat Rovarnus
Imperator
Imperator

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse PhD, When They Cry Master
Posts : 6684
AwesomeSauce : 137

https://churchofproz.forumotion.net

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by Zhu Yang 2012-03-28, 20:30

An Empire is born.
Zhu Yang
Zhu Yang
Archon
Archon

ProZ Degrees: Nasuverse Master
Posts : 2107
AwesomeSauce : 9

Back to top Go down

question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW Empty Re: question for our experts: Archer vs. Gilgamesh in UBW

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum