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Post by kaede on 2010-10-03, 19:50

So anyone else going to make a servant?
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-03, 20:04

maybe, I hope so

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-03, 20:28

I'm trying to convince dinasemrys but hes not responding very much
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-03, 20:45

this game is abunch of arguing, and although I enjoy arguing, I don't enjoy arguing about FSN, and most of the other people on this forum don't enjoy arguing, nor do they agree with the public opinion, so really this game might as well be self automated. no offense.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-03, 22:16

people may have to double up, so I'm going to do an assassin:
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Basic
True Identity:Kirigakure Saizō
Class:Assassin
Alignment:CN

Stats 22
Strength:D
Endurance:E
Agility:A
Mana:C
Luck:C

Abilities 15
Name:Presence Concealment
Rank:A
[Description]The capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant.

Name:Eye of the Mind [False]
Rank:A
[Description]A sixth sense for avoiding danger

Name: Subversive activities
Rank:A
[Description]The capability to lay traps meant to diminish the opponent's strength before battle. At rank A the traps laid may reduce opponent's combat effectiveness by nearly 60%. of total (e.g. Berserker has a rank strength from mad enhancement, this is capable of reducing him to D rank)


Noble Phantasms
Name: Black Sleeves
Rank: C
Type:Support
[Description] An extra-demensional storage area for various ninja weapons and tools including: Katanas, Shuriken, a re-curve bow, twin kusarigamas, twin kamas, various poisons, primitive land mines, blowguns, darts, Happo which were eggshells filled with gunpowder to facilitate escape, grappling hooks, and a collapsible ladder.

Kirigakure Saizō (霧隠才蔵?) is a legendary ninja of the Japanese civil war. In the folklore he is one of the Sanada Ten Braves, and next to Sarutobi Sasuke, he is the most recognized of the Ten.

Nina, please vote up or down, same as my Saber, if the Subversive activities skill is too OP'd then change it.


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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-04, 17:17

I'm doubling up with berserker
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Basic
True Identity: Samson
Class: Berserker
Alignment: Neutral Insane

Stats: 25
Strength: C(+3=A)
Endurance: C(+3=A)
Luck: C(+3=A)
Mana: C(+3=A)
Agility: C(+3=A)

Abilities:17
Mad Enhancement:A(15)
+1.5 to all stats at the cost of sanity
Divinity:D(2)(effectively A)
Gives some amount of divine protection. Greatly increased by his hair.
Creative Ingenuity:C:(3)
Allows him to use any simple object as a D-ranked Anti-Army Noble Phantasm, as exemplified when he destroys a thousand-soldier Philistine army using nothing but the jawbone of an ass.
Noble Phantasms
Samson's Locks(Support, A)(11)
His hair has stats:
Strength: E
Endurance: A
Agility: E
Mana: E
Luck: E
and does nothing other than give 1.5 points to each of Samson's stats and raise his divinity to A.
However, if his hair is cuttoff at any point, he loses these stat bonuses.

Given time in between battles, or in the same battle if enough mana is available and the battle is at a stalemate for a long enough period of time, with no actual fighting occuring, his hair may grow back.

Samson, Shimshon (Hebrew: שמשון, Standard Šimšon Tiberian Šimšôn, meaning "of the sun" or "[One who] Serves [God]") or Shamshoun شمشون (Arabic) or Sampson Σαμψών (Greek) is the third to last of the Judges of the ancient Israelites mentioned in the Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible) and the Talmud. He is described in the Book of Judges chapters 13 to 16.
The exploits of Samson also appear in Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews, written in the last decade of the 1st century AD, as well as in works by Pseudo-Philo, written slightly earlier.
Samson is a Herculean figure, who is granted tremendous strength by God to combat his enemies and perform heroic feats unachievable by ordinary humans:wrestling a lion,] slaying an entire army with only a donkey jawbone, and destroying a temple.
He is believed to have been buried in Tel Tzora in Israel overlooking the Sorek valley. There reside two large gravestones of Samson and his father Manoah. Nearby stands Manoah’s altar (Judges 13:19-24). It is located between the cities of Zorah and Eshtaol.


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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-04, 17:23

Just saying ... that is a fail samson. I told you to use something a little better than just brute strength as your phantasm AND now you told us his weakness
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-04, 18:29

a) everyone should know his weakness

b) if he is going to have just brute strength he should have like enough brute strength to pick up a sky scraper.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-04, 18:43

Not really i had to tell sandy who samson was
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-04, 19:32

FAIL
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-04, 19:36

He gave me the idea for Samson, but I knew who he was.
I have read the bible, you know.
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Post by kaede on 2010-10-04, 20:25

Ok ill say it like this its a no sandow. the hair upgrades his stats too much its understandable if it ranks up all stats by one but upping them by what you put them at is too much.
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Post by kaede on 2010-10-04, 20:36

thats my opinion. what you want would in all cases cost more then the points you paid.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-04, 21:45

Very very ... very cheap indeed but i shouldn't be talking
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-04, 22:08

yeah it might be reasonable if you take the stats and nerf his mana to C or something (there is no reason for him to have A mana). And I mean C after buffing. His hair is a passive ability that makes him have perfect stats the whole time. And that is really useless, because he needs some great finishers or specials, as you have seen in this game its really the specials that make the difference not long term durability and performance of the character.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-05, 15:30

Sandow, Denied
you can have either your hair or mad enhancement, not both


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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-05, 15:35

kk, whatev, ill just make a new one.
Kaede, go ahead and del that one.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-05, 17:17

Yeah ... a++++++ strength? BS
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-05, 17:25

i didn't have any a++++++
it was just a's all across the board.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-05, 17:28

you should have B+ maximum with basic C's, quit trying to double up on Mad Enhancement.

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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-05, 17:45

lol you cant limit him as long as he spends his points correctly. The hair thing increasing all his stats is a bit much, but then again I don't see how this is any worse than merlins dragons and castle.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-05, 17:53

not to mention that, as quan said, he doesn't have any super special awesome killer death moves.
Making him weak as my plan to ally him with my lancer and having lancer supply the super special awesome killer death move has been outlawed(two servants made by the same person can't ally with one another, so says the gm but he prolly forgot to post it.)
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Post by InteroVegas on 2010-10-05, 19:15

no sh1t otherwise you could make two servants that complement each other, like an immovable servant and a range nuke strike type servant.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-05, 20:04

Thats why we shouldn't allow doubling up
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-05, 20:05

you can double up, just not with yourself.
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-05, 20:06

i disagree with teams at all .... unfair battles
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus on 2010-10-05, 20:29

Darkgenesis wrote:no sh1t otherwise you could make two servants that complement each other, like an immovable servant and a range nuke strike type servant.

and then have them be able to combine with each other to make an invincible nuker. but yeah, they are not working together, remember round 1 when peinan's servants fought each other?
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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-05, 20:54

That was just crap ... thats why hes not playing anymore
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-05, 22:20

@nullset12 wrote:i disagree with teams at all .... unfair battles
point noted, your argument makes sense

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-05, 22:53

k, lets do this!
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Basic
True Name:Sargramore
Class:Berserker
Alignment:Chaotic Insane

Stats:30
Strength:B(->B+)
Endurance:B(->B+)
Mana:C(->C+)
Luck:C(->C+)
Agility:C(->C+)

Abilities:10
Battle Continuation:A
Mad Enhancement:C

Noble Phantasms
Knights of the Round Table:Anti-army EX(15)
May have, at his aid, any or all of three knights of the round table, and can switch between them at will.
Any of the knights is treated as a servant created with 20 points to stats and 40 points total, while provide a later post with sample knights. The master may decide which knight to use and whether or not to allow that knight to recieve the bonus from mad enhancement

According to the Lancelot-Grail Cycle, Sagramore is the son of the king of Hungary and the daughter of the Eastern Roman Emperor; he is even an heir to the throne of Constantinople. His father dies while he was still young, and his mother accepts the proposal of King Brandegoris of Estangore in Britain. When he is fifteen, Sagramore travels to Britain to join them and to become one of King Arthur's knights. Upon arrival in Britain Sagramore engages Arthur's Saxon enemies, and receives aid from Arthur's nephew Gawain and his brothers. The group are subsequently knighted by Arthur.
The Lancelot-Grail describes him as a good knight, but quick to anger. When fighting, he would go into a frenzy not unlike the Irish hero Cúchulainn's warp spasm; when he came down, he would feel ill and hungry. As he was wont to do, Sir Kay gave him a nickname, "Morte Jeune" (dead youth), because he would sometimes go into epilepsy-like fits. The Lancelot-Grail recounts a number of his adventures, often centered around rescuing damsels, and mentions that he had a daughter by one of his paramours who was raised at Arthur's court by Guinevere. His half-sister, Brandegoris' beautiful daughter Claire, falls in love with Sir Bors and sleeps with him; their child is Elyan the White. He dies by Mordred's hand at the Battle of Camlann as one of Arthur's last remaining warriors.
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Basic
True Name:Arthur Pendragon
Class:No class
Alignment:Lawful Good

Stats:17.5
Strength:D+
Endurance:D+
Mana:D+
Luck:D+
Agility:D+

Abilities:10
Magic Resistance:A
Riding:A

Noble Phantasm:
Excalibur-A, Anti army12)
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Basic
True Name:Lancelot
Class:No class
Alignment:Chaotic Neutral

Stats:20
Strength:A
Endurance:A
Agility:E+
Mana:E+
Luck:E

Abilities:5
Battle Continuation:A

Noble Phantasm:
Arondight-A, Anti fortress(12) basically the same as excalibur
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Basic
True Name:Bedivere
Class:No class
Alignment:Chaotic Neutral

Stats:20
Strength:E+
Endurance:E+
Agility:E
Mana:A
Luck:A

Abilities:5
Riding:A


Noble Phantasm
Camlann-EX Anti World(15)
A divine beast ranked horse. Also serves as a Reality Marble in that it bends the universe as so to be able to travel at speeds faster than light, while still maintaining perfect steering and visibility.


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Post by kaede on 2010-10-05, 23:18

Well the character looks good but because his mad enchantment is A ranked would he even be able to use his summoning NP? If you remember berserker from fate/stay night his NP nine lives was unuseable because he has B rank madness.

Also with lancelot he would more likely be chaotic good because he was a noble knight in his lifetime with him only doing one really bad thing.

Anyway good character if he was any other class besides berserker it would be a force reckon with.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-05, 23:35

he should have pluses on each stat, and because it's a ranked he won't be able to use summoning NP

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-06, 05:52

Have to say that this is a good servant but not BESERKER

cause now he can't do anything with that mad enhancement of his
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 08:28

Snadow, half of your character concept is invalidated by your class.

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-06, 14:31

Thats kindof the problem
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-06, 15:12

OK, with the gm's permission, I decided to validate my servant by giving myself a C in mad enhancement as well as putting the ten extra points from that into stats.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 15:18

now you can use one of your mini servants pick one
and you have only 29 points in stats

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-06, 15:25

o. Sad
Can i like combine them all into one new one?
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Post by kaede on 2010-10-06, 15:32

Shouldnt you have the summoned servand under mad enchantment as well? The way you have it currently is that he summons a no class servant that can possibly perform better then berserker because of there NP and they have no madness. And the master can decide weather the summoned servant will get the mad enchantment sounds a little unfair dont you think because he could have berserker stay back and have the summoned servant weaken your opponent then send berserker in for the kill.

I think to balance the summoned servant out it should have the ability independent action E- where it can only remained summoned for about one hour at a time depending on the mana concentration in the area.


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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 15:35

@Capitalist Pig wrote:o. Sad
Can i like combine them all into one new one?
no, pick one and decrease their NP to C rank, they are barely shadows of themselves, not even true servants, they should not be able to one shot any thing, also, using their NP causes them to disappear roughly 5 minutes later.


@ Nina, is my assassin good?

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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 15:38

@ZedSlayer wrote:people may have to double up, so I'm going to do an assassin:
Spoiler:

Basic
True Identity:Kirigakure Saizō
Class:Assassin
Alignment:CN

Stats 22
Strength:D
Endurance:E
Agility:A
Mana:C
Luck:C

Abilities 15
Name:Presence Concealment
Rank:A
[Description]The capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant.

Name:Eye of the Mind [False]
Rank:A
[Description]A sixth sense for avoiding danger

Name: Subversive activities
Rank:A
[Description]The capability to lay traps meant to diminish the opponent's strength before battle. At rank A the traps laid may reduce opponent's combat effectiveness by nearly 60%. of total (e.g. Berserker has a rank strength from mad enhancement, this is capable of reducing him to D rank)


Noble Phantasms
Name: Black Sleeves
Rank: C
Type:Support
[Description] An extra-demensional storage area for various ninja weapons and tools including: Katanas, Shuriken, a re-curve bow, twin kusarigamas, twin kamas, various poisons, primitive land mines, blowguns, darts, Happo which were eggshells filled with gunpowder to facilitate escape, grappling hooks, and a collapsible ladder.

Kirigakure Saizō (霧隠才蔵?) is a legendary ninja of the Japanese civil war. In the folklore he is one of the Sanada Ten Braves, and next to Sarutobi Sasuke, he is the most recognized of the Ten.

Nina, please vote up or down, same as my Saber, if the Subversive activities skill is too OP'd then change it.

here it is again

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Post by kaede on 2010-10-06, 15:43

Oh wow I never thought people would use archers trap laying skill and it actually fits very well with this ninja character (though archer used it to lay poison in a duengeon because his NP deals extra basically a 1hit KO to poisoned foes) And the NP seems like its something every video game hero has (seriously where do they store thoes large weapons and loot?)

Anyway approved its a great character sheet.
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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-06, 15:44

can they still use their np even when in mad enhancement?
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 15:51

no

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Post by Capitalist Pig on 2010-10-06, 15:58

You know what I don't get?
When peinan and larry make super duper OP servants, noone cares
when I do it however......
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 16:01

your characters make no sense or attempt to break the system, my Lancer may have been op'd but he made sense and followed the system, same with Peinan: Op'd? Yes. Nonsensical? No. It seems like you are simply pulling these servants out of your ass.

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Post by kaede on 2010-10-06, 16:08

Theres fit within the bounderies the nasuverse has you expect to be able to summon a berserker that can summon a full strength servant that has no imparement in anyway. If it was a caster class I can understand summoning a full strength servant but its a berserker class so anything he summons would in all cases have the same madness as him.
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 16:11

like I said, OUT OF HIS ASS

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Post by nullset12 on 2010-10-06, 17:09

His berserker is some bs ... it has no basis of the real person
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Post by ZedSlayer on 2010-10-06, 17:18

I could understand the Mad Enhancement, however, it makes no sense that he should be able to summon his superiors

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