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Tohno Shiki vs Emiya Shiro

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Post by nullset12 2010-07-08, 18:00

Who would win in a straight foward duel?

Tohno Shiki:

Possesses the mystic eyes of death perception which allow him to detect lines and dots to slash/stab at and kill the person instantly. He suffers from headaches and brain damage as a result of overthinking about the concept. Seeing lines and dots in the undead gives him severe headaches as they should not possess points at which they can die.

Emiya Shiro:

Possesses a reality marble of infinite blades. Each blade can be traced and reinforced to achieve great power. Is skilled in swordsmanship. He suffers from headaches and magic circuit overload as a result of creating new magic circuits each time he chooses to trace. (Adult Shiro does not do this)

I am thinking that shiro could easily kill shiki from far away by tracing archer's bow and some arrows.
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Post by kaede 2010-07-08, 18:34

I'd have to throw in with shiki due to his eyes of death combined with his dormant nanaya personality and training he would just cut the lines of any projectiles that comes his way and when he get up close he would cut the lines of the blades that shirou uses and eventualy stab him in his point of death.

But this would depend on lots of different factors like which shirou would it be? Fate, UBW, or HF? Each Shirou has different skills and abilities. (from here on is just my opinion on shirou) Fate shirou in my opinion is the weakest, UBW shirou is the middle because of he has the reality marble and can has been shown to be able to fight gilgamesh one on one, and HF shirou is the strongest because of archers arm and can ,in a way, trace berserkers nine lives NP.
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-07-08, 19:07

this is a bad fight idea quan, shiki would win since shiro has never actually used a bow and arrow in actual combat cuz he's a dumbass, let's do satsujinki vs. ful archer instead.
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Post by kaede 2010-07-08, 19:09

I agree with wayne satsujinki vs archer would be good to see.
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Post by nullset12 2010-07-08, 20:39

Ok ...

I'll go with satsujinki (older shiki right?) cause his death perception is much more powerful. Could he see the lines of death in noble phantasms?
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-07-08, 20:49

hmm..cybele as mystic eyes is a noble phantasm...in type moon complex shiki can see lines on shiro's fakes....but real NPs...added to the fact that tmoon complex is fan made...it'd take a lot of effort but I think he could do it.
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Post by nullset12 2010-07-08, 21:01

Is it possible that he could go "vegetable"?

I mean, nothing much has been said about satsujinki. But, since hes older, maybe he has developed some methods of dealing with deteriorating nerves?

Type moon complex?
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Post by Corenat Rovarnus 2010-07-08, 21:09

noble phantasms aren't vegetables....and shiki's getting power from arcueid so that he doesn't drop dead all the time. type moon complex is a crossover manga made by crazy clover club.
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Post by nullset12 2010-07-08, 21:41

................ i meant that shiki could just go completely "vegetable" or brain dead
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Post by kaede 2010-07-08, 22:38

brain dead is a best case senario but the eyes will kill him...

But till then I'll go with satujinki sence his eyes are stronger so he may be able to see the lines clearer on archers attacks and his NP. And remember before they where NP they where once regular items that ascended to heroic status so in all likelyhood shiki can cut through NP(ea may be excluded sense archer cant trace it because its made of matrials not from earth so it may not have lines shiki can see).
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Post by kaede 2010-07-08, 23:07

Please excuse the double post but I thought i'd post a bit about what the two have going for them.

Satsujinki

Eyes of Instant Death
直死の魔眼 - Chokushi no Magan
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The knife of the Nanaya
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Archer

Archer's cloak
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Hrunting - The Hound of the Red Plains
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Caladbolg II - The Fake Spiral Sword
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Kanshou and Bakuya - Gan Jiang and Mo Ye
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